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A podcast that explores the question: What could be so hard about returning home after years living overseas? In each episode, Margot Andersen sits down with a former Aussie expat to discuss how they survived repatriation and reverse culture shock. How they navigated the logistics of career, friends and family to successfully find their new place at home... and all without losing their global spirit!
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Wednesday Aug 28, 2024
S6 Ep8: Kerryn Colen
Wednesday Aug 28, 2024
Wednesday Aug 28, 2024
When Kerryn Colen and her family repatriated back to Australia from Canada after 11 years overseas during COVID, hotel quarantine was a silver lining. A silver lining that turned into a silver bullet to getting all the repatriation admin done in two short weeks.
Kids enrolled in school, check. Kids football club logistics, check. Great job, check.
What took longer, was feeling ‘normal’ which took nearly 12 months for the family of four.
In this podcast, Kerryn talks about how the family adjusted and the difference in feelings between parents, who were ‘coming home’ and the kids who were going to live in a place that to date, had just felt like the land of ‘beach holidays, Christmas with relatives and fun times’ - despite their Australian birth certificates.
Kerryn used preparation time and hotel quarantine to sort out the anchors for her family’s new life back in Australia. While for Kerryn this was a job and volunteering, for her kids it was sorting out school and a football club. For Kerryn and her partner, getting the family’s ‘non-work’ lives sorted as soon as possible was a key strategy to making the family, the kids in particular, reconnect with life back in Australia as quickly as possible.
Wednesday Aug 14, 2024
S6 Ep7: Adam Ford
Wednesday Aug 14, 2024
Wednesday Aug 14, 2024
Adam Ford describes his approach to the job market after coming home as ‘pretty proactive because I knew it was going to be pretty difficult’.
Adam was coming home to Australia with a North American finance career but what he really wanted was a role in the for-purpose sector. To achieve this, he knew he had to convince a parochial hiring market NOT to put him in the finance box.
Fast forward a few short years and Adam has successfully swapped boxes.
He now leads the International Association of Privacy Professionals in Australia and New Zealand.
In this podcast, we talk about how Adam has ‘relaunched’ himself a number of times in his career in both the US and in Australia to align with his changing interests and as part of a dual career family.
This is a great discussion for expats who want to come home and want to pivot their career.
Going from a small fish in a large pond, to a larger fish in a somewhat smaller pond sounds like a good idea, until you are that fish. Adam talks through his strategy of taking what could look like a sideways step on the surface, but really was the step that helped him rebuild and pivot to the professional and personal life that he loves right now.
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
S6 Ep 6: Udo Doring
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Udo Doring’s ‘normal’ adult life is not ‘normal’ for most Australians, but ‘normal’ for a person who grew up as a third culture kid with parents raising children in Indonesia, Vietnam, Hong Kong and mainland China.
Which makes him a perfectly “normal” pick for CEO of the Advisory Board Centre, an organisation born in Brisbane but with a presence across the globe.
In this episode we cover Udo’s life as an expat-repat “lifer” and the growth of Advisory Boards and opportunities for globally experienced Aussies.
Advisory boards have doubled globally in the last two years which means opportunities are booming. Unlike corporate boards which are responsible for governance and decision making, advisory boards are used for “problem solving” and it's not just corporates using them. Today government departments and universities are increasingly employing advisory boards. International and deep sector experience is often sought, and no longer are advisory boards just the domain of people in their 50s and 60s. Digital marketing, cyber security and AI are just some of the areas advisory boards are now leaning in to, providing new opportunities for younger professionals.
In this podcast, Udo and I talk about these opportunities, current sector trends and how interested expat-repats should approach getting involved. The decision by the Australian government to mandate that aged care operators have an advisory board is leading many to believe more industries will follow, creating many more opportunities for returning expats to leverage their expertise and keep their international experience alive.
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
S6 Ep5: Jason Whiley
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
Many of my guests leave for overseas for a job opportunity…but few come home for one.
Jason Whiley is one of the lucky few who after 18 years overseas, didn’t just come home with a job with global Security Tech company Giesecke+Devrient – but he came back with a newly created APAC role, which he now does from his home on the Gold Coast.
In this interview, we talk about Jason’s time overseas in Europe and the Middle East which saw him work for two employers, both of whom he has worked for, for nearly three decades.
Having tenure and strong relationships with both employers meant when it was time to come home, Jason could have open conversations about his return and his willingness to work on any opportunity to leverage his experience. The result of these conversations led him to a role with G&D who were looking to expand in the region.
During the podcast, we go into the conversations Jason had with his employers and the planning that when into the role that Jason helped create.
And an early heads up, the process was not quick! But for the patient, Jason’s story has some great lessons for those who find themselves with great, global employers keen to capture their value…even if it is from the other side of the world.
Wednesday May 15, 2024
S6 Ep4: Bec Macdougall
Wednesday May 15, 2024
Wednesday May 15, 2024
When Bec Macdougall returned to Australia after nine years in London, she never imagined her journey would lead to a rural life in regional Victoria.
Her time in London unlocked a passion for brand curation, where she took on a series of formative roles with the likes of Elle Macpherson’s lifestyle brand The Body and organisations such as Quintessentially, a luxury brand experience consultancy.
It was at this time Bec envisaged her future, developing a collective of brands in the wellness and lifestyle space with experience at the core. She wrote her first business plan in 2007 but it was ‘top drawed’ for quite a few years as her practical career flourished.
Upon her return to Australia, Bec initially took on a series of corporate roles that combined this love of luxury brands and events, but there was always a yearning to revisit the business plan that was sitting in the top drawer.
Not long after meeting her husband, Angus they bought a farm outside of Benalla with a view to a long-term restoration project and Dunmore Farm was born.
With aspirations of creating a UK Soho Farm House offering, Bec also drew inspiration from the likes of Daylesford Farm in the Cotswalds and The Newt in Somerset, UK.
Today - more than a decade after writing her original business plan - Bec’s vision for a portfolio of lifestyle brands is being realised.
I’m looking forward to exploring with Bec how these international experiences continue to influence her career and business ventures today, and how this former city gal has transitioned from bright lights to starry nights in regional Victoria.
Wednesday May 01, 2024
S6 Ep3: Andrea Barton
Wednesday May 01, 2024
Wednesday May 01, 2024
The stories of accompanying expats, often go untold. With a focus on careers as the primary driver for relocation, it is important to remember the families of those that transition.
When Andrea Barton's husband was offered a relocation to Lagos, Nigeria, Andrea was forced to think about her career and how she could reshape it. Throwing herself initially into community initiatives Andrea explored her passion for writing and storytelling. Over the next 13 years and multiple moves, Andrea’s writing drew inspiration from the people, places and communities she and her family found themselves living in.
Five books later, Andrea's writing has continued to shape her career and move with her now that she has returned to Australia. Since arriving ‘home’, Andrea has been working on developing her literary network, starting her own company and finalising her novel.
Her debut novel, The Godfather of Dance, was published this year and is available now.