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A podcast that explores the question: What could be so hard about returning home after years living overseas? In each episode, Margot Andersen sits down with a former Aussie expat to discuss how they survived repatriation and reverse culture shock. How they navigated the logistics of career, friends and family to successfully find their new place at home... and all without losing their global spirit!
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Sunday Nov 07, 2021
S3 Ep1: Chris Edwards
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
People often do extreme things to avoid Sydney house prices but none more extreme than Chris Edwards and her husband. Fifteen years ago when staring down an exorbitant quote to renovate their tiny, inner city cottage – they decided to take an easier option. Move to Singapore. On their own coin and for Chris, without a job.
After a start in publishing, Chris went out on her own and established Honeycombers – a lifestyle guide to all things Singapore that has now grown into a group of publishing and digital services businesses.
Four years ago, after 11 years in Singapore, Chris and her family moved back from the little red dot to set up life in Byron Bay.
Chris spent three years planning the move back home so that her businesses could manage itself locally – this involved working with her team to make sure there was a skilled and trusted management team and structure in place in Singapore. This worked pretty well – until just before COVID when her General Manager resigned and Chris found herself managing her Asian businesses in the midst of a pandemic from her home office in Byron.
She weathered the lows, which included seeing revenues fall off a cliff, and experienced the highs of seeing her team at their creative best. In true expat spirit, her resilience has paid off and she has some key learnings to share about what is and isn’t possible for managing international businesses remotely.
Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
S2 Ep9: Season Wrap - The Covid Series
Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
A special episode dedicated to all the COVID expat-repats – those Aussies who came home in the pandemic either as a direct result, a planned moved or in some cases just because they were passing through Australia when it all hit.
Podcast producers Margot Andersen and Simone Pregellio share the expat stories from both the podcast and six months of conversations with Australians who have been part of the 600,000 contingent who have come home during COVID.
On top of the normal repatriation challenges, these COVID repats have had some unique challenges. Navigating closed borders, coming home in the midst of lockdowns and trying to re-establish networks over Zoom.
All while big changes are happening in the job market and stories surface of an impending skills shortage.
In this episode Margot outlines the challenges and the opportunities she is discussing with expats today and how expats sitting overseas can prepare for their move back during these uncertain conditions.
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
S2 Ep8: Prue Clarke
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
It was the Aussie sense of adventure that took journalist Prue Clarke to New York in 2000, it was the American dream that kept her there for 19 years.
Like most expats, Prue’s story started with a plan to be away for ‘just a year’. But when her ‘just a year’ included studying at the prestigious Columbia University, reporting on September 11 and meeting her very own Mr Big, plans change.
After two years in New York, and reflecting on her experience with September 11, Prue decided she wanted to report more on the world’s ‘why’ than its ‘what’. She took a six-month job in Ghana in Africa which started a six-year tenure reporting for US and global publications from the developing world and sowed the seeds for her non-profit organisation New Narratives that she still leads today. New Narratives supports news media in low- income countries of Africa and the Pacific to empower them to tell their own stories.
New Narratives and journalism in Africa have remained constant in Prue’s life which has taken her from New York to London, back to New York and then home to Sydney in 2019, with an American husband and two internationally-born children in tow.
Managing such a life Prue attributes to ‘America’s dream big’ mentality and the influence of a city like New York where everything feels possible.
She is now living in a world now that feels very restricted and, in this podcast, ponders the opportunities and risks for Australians like herself trying to maintain global organisations and connections. After spending nearly two decades reporting on both Australian and global stories, Prue also reflects on the impact the departure of hundreds of thousands of Aussie expats from overseas roles back home will have on ‘brand Australia’ internationally.
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
S2 Ep7: Andrew Whitford
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
Kissed on the backside by a fairy, is how expat Andy Whitford has described his luck being relocated back to Australia with an Asia Pacific role during COVID.
After 15 years in Shanghai and Hong Kong and a previous expat life of six years in London, Andy was aware of how hard it could be to return home without a job.
In recent years, this former CEO and Director of multiple Australian Chambers of Commerce in Asia had tried but failed to pursue board positions with Australian companies because he wasn’t ‘local’ to Sydney or Melbourne. In one head-hunter’s words, ‘a board director wants to be able to have a drink at the club with you’. Leadership, Asian experience (and Zoom it seems) was not enough.
Fortunately, in 2019, Andy was approached by an organisation that thought differently which is why in Hong Kong he was able to transition from leading a bank to leading a successful UK based research, intelligence and campaigns consultancy. From the outset, this organisation had sought his Asian know-how, his deep networks and his start-up experience. His campaign knowledge – was taught on the job.
Andy acknowledges how lucky he was to come home with a great role and to be able to then live in his home-town of Melbourne surrounded by family. He reflects on what has and has not changed for expats returning home over the last two decades. With record numbers of Australian talent coming home over the last year, we ask him what he thinks needs to change to better help professional expats when they return and for Australia to maximise the brain gain opportunity.
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
S2 Ep6: Michael Ellis
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
“I wish I knew how it would be to be free.” Nina Simone
This was the song that Michael Ellis used to describe his year of lockdown in the UK and his decision (and subsequent adventure) to get back home after 19 years living in London.
In February, when UK COVID deaths were at over 1,800 a day, Michael secured a spot on a very happy DFAT repatriation flight. Prior to COVID, Michael had no intention of coming home. He had a great career and established life overseas and as long as he could come home at least once a year, it was a lifestyle he wanted to continue.
But the forced separation from family, particularly in the lead up to his father’s 80th birthday, forced a re-think, as it has for so many Australians living overseas.
Upon returning to Australia after a year of living on his own in lockdown, Michael took advantage of his new found freedom in Australia with an epic road trip from Darwin to Melbourne following the compulsory two weeks of quarantine.
Now back, he is now navigating and enjoying a very different life back in Australia. But he has not yet answered the question, will he stay?
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
S2 Ep5: Sarah Ntiamoah
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
For Change Manager Sarah , coming home from ten years in London was a change she thought she could handle.
Like any project, she planned ahead. She started thinking and planning two years in advance, secured a job and didn’t lose so much as a sock during the relocation thanks to her expertise in project management and excel.
So why did Sarah, who had spent a decade advising global companies in change, ring a friend after six weeks of arriving home and ask the question ‘What have I done?’
Fast forward two years and Sarah is one happy and settled Sydney-sider but she acknowledges that in the beginning she was not quite prepared. For Sarah, ‘reverse culture shock’ was very real but once she was aware of it, she found it easier to ride out the rest of her change curve.
Along with her story, Sarah shares her tips for others embarking on the repat journey.