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A podcast that explores the question: What could be so hard about returning home after years living overseas? In each episode, Margot Andersen sits down with a former Aussie expat to discuss how they survived repatriation and reverse culture shock. How they navigated the logistics of career, friends and family to successfully find their new place at home... and all without losing their global spirit!
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Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
S2 Ep9: Season Wrap - The Covid Series
Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
Wednesday Sep 22, 2021
A special episode dedicated to all the COVID expat-repats – those Aussies who came home in the pandemic either as a direct result, a planned moved or in some cases just because they were passing through Australia when it all hit.
Podcast producers Margot Andersen and Simone Pregellio share the expat stories from both the podcast and six months of conversations with Australians who have been part of the 600,000 contingent who have come home during COVID.
On top of the normal repatriation challenges, these COVID repats have had some unique challenges. Navigating closed borders, coming home in the midst of lockdowns and trying to re-establish networks over Zoom.
All while big changes are happening in the job market and stories surface of an impending skills shortage.
In this episode Margot outlines the challenges and the opportunities she is discussing with expats today and how expats sitting overseas can prepare for their move back during these uncertain conditions.
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
S2 Ep8: Prue Clarke
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
It was the Aussie sense of adventure that took journalist Prue Clarke to New York in 2000, it was the American dream that kept her there for 19 years.
Like most expats, Prue’s story started with a plan to be away for ‘just a year’. But when her ‘just a year’ included studying at the prestigious Columbia University, reporting on September 11 and meeting her very own Mr Big, plans change.
After two years in New York, and reflecting on her experience with September 11, Prue decided she wanted to report more on the world’s ‘why’ than its ‘what’. She took a six-month job in Ghana in Africa which started a six-year tenure reporting for US and global publications from the developing world and sowed the seeds for her non-profit organisation New Narratives that she still leads today. New Narratives supports news media in low- income countries of Africa and the Pacific to empower them to tell their own stories.
New Narratives and journalism in Africa have remained constant in Prue’s life which has taken her from New York to London, back to New York and then home to Sydney in 2019, with an American husband and two internationally-born children in tow.
Managing such a life Prue attributes to ‘America’s dream big’ mentality and the influence of a city like New York where everything feels possible.
She is now living in a world now that feels very restricted and, in this podcast, ponders the opportunities and risks for Australians like herself trying to maintain global organisations and connections. After spending nearly two decades reporting on both Australian and global stories, Prue also reflects on the impact the departure of hundreds of thousands of Aussie expats from overseas roles back home will have on ‘brand Australia’ internationally.
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
S2 Ep7: Andrew Whitford
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
Thursday Jul 08, 2021
Kissed on the backside by a fairy, is how expat Andy Whitford has described his luck being relocated back to Australia with an Asia Pacific role during COVID.
After 15 years in Shanghai and Hong Kong and a previous expat life of six years in London, Andy was aware of how hard it could be to return home without a job.
In recent years, this former CEO and Director of multiple Australian Chambers of Commerce in Asia had tried but failed to pursue board positions with Australian companies because he wasn’t ‘local’ to Sydney or Melbourne. In one head-hunter’s words, ‘a board director wants to be able to have a drink at the club with you’. Leadership, Asian experience (and Zoom it seems) was not enough.
Fortunately, in 2019, Andy was approached by an organisation that thought differently which is why in Hong Kong he was able to transition from leading a bank to leading a successful UK based research, intelligence and campaigns consultancy. From the outset, this organisation had sought his Asian know-how, his deep networks and his start-up experience. His campaign knowledge – was taught on the job.
Andy acknowledges how lucky he was to come home with a great role and to be able to then live in his home-town of Melbourne surrounded by family. He reflects on what has and has not changed for expats returning home over the last two decades. With record numbers of Australian talent coming home over the last year, we ask him what he thinks needs to change to better help professional expats when they return and for Australia to maximise the brain gain opportunity.
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
S2 Ep6: Michael Ellis
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
“I wish I knew how it would be to be free.” Nina Simone
This was the song that Michael Ellis used to describe his year of lockdown in the UK and his decision (and subsequent adventure) to get back home after 19 years living in London.
In February, when UK COVID deaths were at over 1,800 a day, Michael secured a spot on a very happy DFAT repatriation flight. Prior to COVID, Michael had no intention of coming home. He had a great career and established life overseas and as long as he could come home at least once a year, it was a lifestyle he wanted to continue.
But the forced separation from family, particularly in the lead up to his father’s 80th birthday, forced a re-think, as it has for so many Australians living overseas.
Upon returning to Australia after a year of living on his own in lockdown, Michael took advantage of his new found freedom in Australia with an epic road trip from Darwin to Melbourne following the compulsory two weeks of quarantine.
Now back, he is now navigating and enjoying a very different life back in Australia. But he has not yet answered the question, will he stay?
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
S2 Ep5: Sarah Ntiamoah
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
For Change Manager Sarah , coming home from ten years in London was a change she thought she could handle.
Like any project, she planned ahead. She started thinking and planning two years in advance, secured a job and didn’t lose so much as a sock during the relocation thanks to her expertise in project management and excel.
So why did Sarah, who had spent a decade advising global companies in change, ring a friend after six weeks of arriving home and ask the question ‘What have I done?’
Fast forward two years and Sarah is one happy and settled Sydney-sider but she acknowledges that in the beginning she was not quite prepared. For Sarah, ‘reverse culture shock’ was very real but once she was aware of it, she found it easier to ride out the rest of her change curve.
Along with her story, Sarah shares her tips for others embarking on the repat journey.
Tuesday May 25, 2021
S2 Ep4: Nicole Webb
Tuesday May 25, 2021
Tuesday May 25, 2021
Nicole had a great career in Australia as a well-regarded journalist and newsreader with Sky News when her hotelier husband James was offered a new role, first in Hong Kong and then in the ancient Chinese city of Xi’an.
For Nicole, the initial transition was challenging – her whole professional identity until that time had been ‘journalist’, and the role of English-speaking newsreader didn’t quite work in mainland China.
Wanting to work, but realising she needed to change what ‘work’ would look like, Nicole began building a portfolio of roles which included freelance writer, MC and media trainer. She built her portfolio steadily while she lived in Hong Kong however, she found herself pivoting again in Xi'an, when language became more of a consideration.
While living in Xi'an, Nicole returned to her roots and started interviewing differing people she met – but not for the news rather to capture her experience living as one of 1,000 expats in a city of 9 million people.
Returning to Australia in 2017, this research ultimately became the foundation for her latest role – best-selling author. China Blonde was released in late 2020 and is Nicole and her family’s story of living in Xi'an. As blondes.