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A podcast that explores the question: What could be so hard about returning home after years living overseas? In each episode, Margot Andersen sits down with a former Aussie expat to discuss how they survived repatriation and reverse culture shock. How they navigated the logistics of career, friends and family to successfully find their new place at home... and all without losing their global spirit!
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Thursday Apr 18, 2024
S6 Ep2: Adam Malouf
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
With a 25-year career bridging the worlds between Australia and the Middle East, Adam Malouf is now forging a new path, in a new sector and creating a new, albeit familiar life for him and his family.
The possibility of unchartered opportunity first attracted Adam to Dubai in 2004, long before the UAE was frequented by the volume of expat Australians who now work and live in the region. Initially attracted to the region as a way of fast tracking his legal career, Adam's career rapidly expanded through a series of investment roles and engagements on multiple board and committees, including the Australian Business Council in Dubai and the Australia Arab Chamber of Commerce and the AICD Middle East advisory committee – reinforcing his contribution in both regions.
It was on a family holiday back in Australia when his kids uttered the words ‘Dad we think it’s time, we want to come back to Australia’ that the idea of returning was planted. Having already repatriated once before, Adam knew it was going to take more than a couple of calls to recruiters and a scan of the jobs page in the weekend paper to land the right opportunity. Determined to return with a role - and a meaningful one at that, Adam set about putting together a robust plan to leverage his networks – both in Australia and abroad - as he explored what was possible.
The plan worked and Adam returned in 2023 to the role of COO of the University of Wollongong.
Wednesday Mar 27, 2024
S6 Ep1: Chelsea Guy
Wednesday Mar 27, 2024
Wednesday Mar 27, 2024
When Chelsea Guy came back from Tokyo, and the work experience of the lifetime, she found she had still a pay cheque but didn’t have a role.
Chelsea had worked her way through various marketing roles at Toyota when there was an opportunity to put her hand up for a coveted secondment. Her assignment – digital marketing to support Toyota’s sponsorship of the Tokyo Olympics.
For Chelsea, not even being struck by the COVID curse, could diminish the experience she gained working with an international team, on the world’s biggest event while learning a new skill in digital. However, when she returned to Melbourne two years later, she found she and her new experience didn’t quite fit, even in the office she had worked for, for many years.
Her Japanese experience unleashed her passion for major international events, and 18-months after returning home, Chelsea strategically forged a path to secure a coveted role at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival.
Chelsea has managed to carve out a career that harnesses her global sponsorship experience, elevates her international connections and supports her passion for delivering world-class events.
Today, I talk to Chelsea about how her international experience not only lit her career flame but how she has combined all her experiences to create a pathway to her her dream role.
Tuesday Oct 24, 2023
S5 Ep8: Angella Clarke-Jervoise
Tuesday Oct 24, 2023
Tuesday Oct 24, 2023
When Angella left Australia at aged 29, she knew she would be gone longer than two years. With expat parents and grandparents, a life overseas was always on the cards.
But she didn’t know it would be 22 years.
Or that her time overseas would include 13 years in Bahrain.
Or that when she eventually came home, she would change her professional identity.
For someone who had always worked in talent management and workforce design, and whose career had led her family’s choice of where to live, changing her career path was particularly profound.
It was also the result of an evolution not revolution.
In this podcast, Angella shares how coming home to Australia and starting again, forced her to evaluate her career path and the turn it took next. She shares her philosophy of ‘saying yes to everything’ to build knowledge and networks and how it is okay for someone who manages careers to ask for help managing their own.
Thursday Oct 05, 2023
S5 Ep7: Leonora Roccisano
Thursday Oct 05, 2023
Thursday Oct 05, 2023
Leonora was extremely excited when she landed in Hong Kong. A dynamic, exciting and unique place with family connections it had the potential to be her forever home.
But in 2021 Covid made Leonora feel uncomfortably isolated from family and confirmed for her that Australia was where she wanted to base herself.
But she didn’t just flick the switch and jump on the next flight home.
That would be too risky for this risk professional.
She took the same structured approach that she has used to manage a career in risk and financial services, to managing her move home both professionally and personally.
In short, Leonora treated finding a job, like a job and six months later found herself juggling opportunities for employment, business and a board role with a not for profit.
For those expat-repats who find comfort in structure, she is a great example of how to build your own confidence in your move back home – by using the skills you already have.
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
S5 Ep6: James Bingham
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
When James Bingham the IT Project Manager left for London in 2014, little did he know that he would come back to Australia almost 8 years later with a new career in an industry that to this day, you can’t do a degree or course in.
Yet in a post COVID world, is now one of the most talked about subjects.
Workplace strategy.
James was working with NBCUniversal in London when he was offered the chance to relocate to New York and keep his overseas adventure alive. In New York, he helped NBCUniversal set up their offices all over the US and Canada. This led him to WeWork, which at the time was leading the world in re-inventing co-working communities and spaces.
Here, James was allowed to dream and create a new future of work - at a time when the world need to pivot its thinking about work with the offset of the pandemic. It was also here where he met some kindred spirits and the idea of Alidade, a real estate and workplace strategy advisory company was born.
James came home mid-pandemic and has spent the last three years leading Alidade’s presence in Australia and the Asia Pacific. We talk about the challenge of bringing his overseas experience home and the challenge of adapting big market strategies it to a smaller market like Australia - that approaches innovation in a much different way to the Americans! He offers some great advice for Aussies coming home and wanting to start a business in an industry that may have been going at a different speed and scale to Australia.
Tuesday Aug 29, 2023
S5 Ep5: Mark Lindley
Tuesday Aug 29, 2023
Tuesday Aug 29, 2023
Mark Lindley left Australia for a life overseas with no job and returned 12 years later in the same situation.
But in both scenarios – he had a grand plan underpinned by dreams to choose where he wanted to live and let the career follow.
And it worked out for Mark – both in Dubai and today in the Gold Coast.
In this podcast, I talk to Mark about how he and his wife chose Dubai for their overseas adventure and the next chapter in their already established careers.
And he tells me how after 12 years in senior HR roles which saw him responsible for thousands of staff across the world, he woke up one day and just realised ‘it was time’.
Rather than come back to his old home in Sydney, Mark and his wife decided on Gold Coast, a city neither had ever lived in. They were determined to keep their adventure going – and that adventure continued to involve sand! He was also determined to not let a job dictate where he ultimately lived so the Gold Coast decision came way before a job decision was made.
I talk to Mark about how he planned his return navigating his global experience and roles into a career he could manage from the Gold Coast, largely remotely and often in his shorts.
And he explains why after a career of permanent jobs, he has become is a big fan of the contract. His advice, just make sure it goes for a year.